u/suflajin r/ProgrammingLanguages • Recommends
Guido van Rossum: Python and the Future of Programming | Lex Fridman Podcast #341
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Guido van Rossum: Python and the Future of Programming | Lex Fridman Podcast #341
Lex Fridman
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- Presented by Guido van Rossum, creator of Python
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Guido van Rossum discusses the design of Python, the global interpreter lock, asyncio, and the impact of AI coding tools.
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4 people recommend thisWhat people say. Recommended for insights into Python's performance improvements, the history of the GIL, and Guido's perspective on AI-assisted coding.
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pen2lon Hacker News • Recommends
On “Python 3.11 Delivers”
This is baseless conjecture and completely without merit. Guido was intimately involved with this speed-up work. I've disagreed with Guido over things but the things you're saying are just weird. I recommend this interview to get a slightly better glimpse of the guy: link to this video
fernandotakaion Hacker News • Recommends
On “Commander Keen's Adaptive Tile Scrolling”
link for people that want to watch it: link i would also recommend another two of his interviews: Todd Howard link Guido van Rossun link to this video
u/Zyklonikin r/ProgrammingLanguages • Mentions
On ““Don’t listen to language designers””
> I suspect it’s one of those things that people used to other approaches just have a hard time accepting.
Well, it does have objective downsides - if the indentation gets messed up somehow, it's impossible to get it working automatically using a formatter. It is fully manual work. So also transporting it over the wire. Same issue.
Even Guido himself recognises (link to this video that it was a mistake, but he is loath (for obvious reasons) at accepting it.
Also, there are differences between indentation semantics between Python and Haskell which makes it substantially easier in Haskell.
frflon Hacker News • Mentions
On “The Python Steering Council intent to approve PEP 703: making the GIL optional”
If I remember Guido van Rossum did mention the status of the GIL in one of the Lex Friedman episodes 1 he was on (it's been a while, so I may be misremembering). Surprised to see a big decision like this happen so quickly. Did Meta's announcement play a big role in this 2? 1: link to this video 2: link
mobiuscogon Hacker News • Mentions
On “How Many Lines of C It Takes to Execute a and B in Python?”
There was some high-level discussion of this in the chat Guido van Rossum had with Lex Fridman (timestamped): link to this video
vonneumannstanon Hacker News • Mentions
On “The Generative AI Con”
Yeah unironically. Guido van Rossum - "I use it every day. My biggest adjustment with using Copilot was that instead of writing code, my posture shifted to reviewing code." link to this video Here's Jeff Dean saying 25% of the characters in new PRs at Google are AI Generated. link Andrej Karpathy - "I basically can't imagine going back to "unassisted" coding at this point" link Andrew Ng - "I run multiple models on my laptop — Mistral, Llama, Zefa. And I use ChatGPT quite often. " link Simon Willison link I mean I can keep going. I doubt you would compare yourself to these people.
u/Zyklonikin r/ProgrammingLanguages • Mentions
On “26 programming languages in 25 days, Part 2: Reflections on language design”
Well, even Guido himself begrudgingly admitted that choosing whitespace sensitivity was not the best idea in hindsight. link to this video around 14:57 onwards.
He puts it in a different way, but the conclusion is the same.