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Steve Jobs on privacy, Steve Jobs at the D8 Conference (Video)

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Steve Jobs explains Apple's philosophy on user privacy, arguing that users must be asked for consent clearly and repeatedly.

D8 Conference Jun 2010

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4 people recommend this, 1 disputes it

What people say. Engineers frequently cite this clip as the gold standard for how tech companies should handle user privacy and consent.

maxperton Hacker News • 9 years agoRecommends

On “Privacy”

…OMS, skins whatever you might imagine). Shifted to Apple's echo system 2-3 years ago. It took me some time to get used to iOS but integration across devices (my mac, my iPad, my watch) is simply amazing. I am not going sound like broken record or fan boy here. Apple got me on this video where Steve Jobs really showed how much they care for privacy link to this video the other day my wife got a notification from Google Photos that it prepared our Album from our trip to SFO. We have turned of location tagging and everything, turns out Google is not content with me asking them to leave me alone, they would use ML and whatever they have built to figure out where I have been. In this day in age, while Apple…

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ssivarkon Hacker News • 7 years agoRecommends

On “Lawmakers fed up with Zuckerberg”

> Now, how do I do it in a non-evil way? I am presuming here that everyone agrees that should be possible to make that work ... Apparently Facebook did it the wrong way. Why? I really like Steve Jobs' comments on how to operate, with regards to questions of user privacy: link to this video (3 minutes) While I'm not convinced about the need for devices to be locked down, the rest of his response should be the gold standard in my opinion.

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schoolornoton Hacker News • 6 years agoRecommends

On “New iOS privacy feature may end an era of personalized ads”

You're making it sound like there is no business opportunity on Apple's side to mine and sell customer data the way Google does. Why can't we assume they are doing it with the best of intentions? Watch this 10 year old clip of Steve Jobs: link to this video The position is genuine.

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HatchedLake721on Hacker News • 4 years agoRecommends

On “Airbnb wants to GPS track you also when not using the app”

Steve Jobs words 12 years later are still very relevant today link to this video I just want to thank Apple for pushing this agenda forward, introducing things I believe Google would never do themselves first unless pressured. I still remember Apple introducing “track me while using the app only” in a new iOS years ago that stopped companies hoarding live geolocation of every app user. And we still get new bits and bobs every major iOS release. In just last few years we found out apps that unnecessarily scanned for our network devices or used clipboards for no apparent reason. Keep them coming.

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latexron Hacker News • 1 year agoDisputes

On “Apple Photos phones home on iOS 18 and macOS 15”

How many times are you going to shift the goalposts? This is getting tiresome, so I’ll make it my last reply. I don’t have Netflix but neither is that relevant to the point, you’re obviously and embarrassingly grasping at straws. No one is arguing against continuous cloud backups, they’re arguing about sending data without consent . Which, by the way, is something Apple used to understand not to do. link to this video Apple’s OS are already filled with Windows Vista style popups and permissions for inconsequential crap, people have been making fun of them for that for years.

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SolarUpNoteon Hacker News • 9 years agoMentions

On “Apple does right by users and advertisers are displeased”

> Apple has traditionally been very user hostile Here's an interview with Steve Jobs on privacy regarding location data: link to this video Apple takes care of their users.

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rblatzon Hacker News • 9 years agoMentions

On “Privacy”

Privacy has been big at Apple for a long time, this video was posted in this thread of Steve Jobs talking about how important privacy is to Apple link to this video

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osteeleon Hacker News • 8 years agoMentions

On “Facebook denies it collects call and SMS data from phones without permission”

“Privacy means people know what they’re signing up for. In plain English, and repeatedly. That’s what it means. I’m an optimist. I believe people are smart. And some people want to share more data than other people do. Ask them. Ask them every time. Make them tell you to stop asking them if they’re tired of you asking them. Let them know precisely what you’re going to do with their data. That’s what we think.” — Steve Jobs, 2010 WSJ AllThingsD Conference Video: link to this video Transcript: link Recent article: link

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maireon Hacker News • 8 years agoMentions

On “Apple cracking down on applications that send location data to third-parties”

Apple always took location privacy seriously. I remember an interview between Steve Jobs and Walt Mossberg years ago on this subject. I looked it up again: link to this video

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ancorevardon Hacker News • 7 years agoMentions

On “Is Firefox better than Chrome? It comes down to privacy”

> If you recall, Apple's stance on privacy is quite recent. You should read some of the history of Steve Jobs, and you will learn that he was very serious about privacy and it seems like his values have been imbued into Apple and now Tim Cook. Here's perhaps the latest clip of Steve on privacy: link to this video

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nojitoon Hacker News • 6 years agoMentions

On “Google-backed groups criticize Apple's new warnings on user tracking”

>Apple is trying to position itself as more privacy friendly suggesting that the tide may be finally turning. This isn't a recent thing. link to this video

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st1x7on Hacker News • 5 years agoMentions

On “Facebook: Free as in Bullshit”

> at least a year now (...) they show a privacy disclosure splash screen before turning on many features for the first time. This has been the case from the start of the Apple App Store. Here is a 3 minute video of Steve Jobs talking about it in 2010 - link to this video (Zuckerberg comes up too funnily enough).

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nojitoon Hacker News • 5 years agoMentions

On “Facebook Employees Say Apple Fight Is “Self Serving””

>I can't buy the Apple "good samaritan" act. Apple is not fighting for privacy. Why not? Here's Jobs 10 years ago talking about this. link to this video

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nojitoon Hacker News • 5 years agoMentions

On “Apple removes first-party firewall exemption in macOS 11.2 beta 2”

This comment has no basis of truth. link to this video Jobs @ D8 People are quick to forget because back then everyone (including HN) was praising Google for everything under the sun.

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nojitoon Hacker News • 5 years agoMentions

On “Et Tu, Procter and Gamble?”

>Ten years ago Apple wasn't running ads about privacy and they were working on building out the App Store. Steve did link to this video >Privacy means people know what they're signing up for, in plain English and repeatedly >I believe people are smart and some people want to share more data than other people do. Ask them. Ask them every time. Make them tell you to stop asking them if they get tired of your asking them. Let them know precisely what you're going to do with their data I think the issue was that Apple bungled IDFA by not making in opt-in initially and now are trying to correct their mistakes. Apple was vilified 10 years ago for this stance, but at the end of the day they were right with th…

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simonhon Hacker News • 5 years agoMentions

On “Apple's iCloud+ “VPN””

Steve Jobs talking about this at D8 in 2010, and of course the privacy features he talks about were baked into the OS APIs from the start. Apple's rift with Google over user data collection in Google Maps goes back to 2009 when Google held Apple to ransom for the user data in return for turn-by-turn directions. Apple refused and started building their own maps service, buying Placebase in July that year. link to this video

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