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"Boundaries of Language Design" with Andrew Kelley & Ginger Bill
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"Boundaries of Language Design" with Andrew Kelley & Ginger Bill
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- Presented by Andrew Kelley and Ginger Bill
- An opinion. It argues one side of a question engineers disagree on.
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Programming languagesSystems programmingLanguage design and type systemsCompilers and interpreters
Andrew Kelley and Ginger Bill discuss the native computing layer, compiler construction, and the boundaries of classical language design.
I talk with Andrew Kelley and Ginger Bill about the position of classical languages in the textual programming paradigm. We talk about what makes a programming system suited to the native computing layer, interfaces for constructing software, visual programming vs visualizations of data, alternative input devices for programming, mapping programs down to the existing C-like tool chains, places to get started with compiler construction, and more. Links: Andrew Kelley - andrewkelley.me/ Ginger Bill - gingerbill.org/ Zig - ziglang.org/ Odin - odin-lang.org/ Light Table - lighttable.com/Why it's here
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Boundaries of Language Design
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u/eightrxin r/ProgrammingLanguages • Mentions
On “Are there any books/resources on language design (as opposed to implementation)”
I think most of what you're describing comes at a case by case basis. Every PL dev goes about there design process differently, so my best guidance would be to listen to language designers talk about what your describing and make your own inference.
J blow on language design
Boundaries of language design with Andrew Kelley and Ginger bill
u/kayroozein r/Zig • Mentions
On “How can I experience all that Zig, and low-level programming have to offer?”
…entality. Your ability to find and learn these things is a skill in and of itself. You want to read through the information, try to implement it after which you’ll have a better idea of what they do, then ask questions or if you’re stuck for too long ask questions.
Here are some good videos to get you thinking about memory management strategies.
link to this video
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And here’s a good resource for understanding how code runs on the hardware
https://www.computerenhance.com/
And here’s a good discussion to understand language design
link to this video
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u/VirtualDistortionin r/ProgrammingLanguages • Mentions
On “Why are we still using text based programming languages (and I'm not thinking about a blueprint-like language)”
I don't have anything of value to add, but coincidentally, I was just listening this podcast featuring Ginger Bill and Andrew Kelley where they touch on non-text-based programming languages: link to this video But be warned, it's a rather long and meandering video.
u/kayroozein r/Zig • Mentions
On “Long time hacker, two days with zig... strings are nuts!”
Yeah, it feels pretty obtuse sometimes. I think the idea is be as minimal and explicit as possible for the road to 1.0, so I don’t know if it will be “fixed.”
This is a really good podcast behind the language design.
link to this video