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Music Software & Interface Design: MuseScore

Tantacrul

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Tantacrul delivers a detailed and humorous UX and UI design critique of the MuseScore 3 music notation software.

This is a UX & UI design review of the music notation software: MuseScore, which has become increasingly popular over the last few years. In this video I look at three things: the visual appeal of its UI design, the usability of its navigation and how it compares to Avid’s Sibelius when it comes to notation finesse. Since the company was bought by Ultimate Guitar in 2018, it’s beginning to look like a serious competitor, especially since it’s open source and free to use. Download it now and see for yourself! This review focuses solely on the recently released MuseScore 3, rather than MuseScore 2, which is no longer being actively developed. This is the second part of my notation software comparison series. The next application in line for review will be either Notion, Dorico or Finale. I’ll let circumstance dictate which! Sibelius get a few mentions in this video. I couldn't not talk about them! --- Please support me on Patreon. It's the only way I can finance making these videos with any degree of stability. patreon.com/Tantacrul Some notes on this video: Mania (Greek goddess of insanity) and Oizys (Greek goddess of depression and anxiety) are depicted here as creepy looking statues. Since neither of these gods are particularly well known, it was extremely difficult to find sculptures of either of them, so I used images of unusual, weather beaten statues found in Vienna. I’m pretty sure the one on the right is a depiction of Mary. The other… I’m not certain. --- Attributions: The horror music used during ‘those’ Shostakovich scenes were created by GowlerMusic: youtube.com/redirect?q=https%3A%2F%2Ffreesound.org%2Fpeople%… Thanks to Daniel Ray at MuseScore for all his tireless help answering questions never once asking me to 'be nice'! Thanks to Jonathan Lee (Pentameron) for providing much better subtitles than mine. Really appreciate the work and I've learned a lot about how to do it properly. (You'd think it's easy) ---- LINKS Download MuseScore 3 musescore.org/en/download Design and Open Source benwerd.com/2011/06/27/open-source-needs-designers/ Mental models: uxdesign.cc/making-better-design-decisions-through-mental-mo…

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4 people recommend this

What people say. Recommended as an exceptionally entertaining and informative critique of software user interface design that led to the creator being hired by MuseScore.

xmprton Hacker News • Recommends

On “The Distribution of Users’ Computer Skills: Worse Than You Think (2016)”

The solution isn't to put things in preference windows either because even smart users will find that cumbersome. There's an interesting pair of videos (if you have some time) that goes over the UI of two competing music scoring software and why one is bad and the other good. link link to this video

hexmileson Hacker News • Recommends

On “MuseScore 4: Moving from notation software to composition software”

they actually hired the person behind this video (tantacrul): link to this video It criticize the user interface and experience of various music application. I find it very entertaining yet still informative

meowfaceon Hacker News • Recommends

On “Audacity Aquired by Muse Group”

If anyone's curious, here are Tantacrul's entertaining videos on MuseScore and designing MuseScore's new font, and the Audacity video from yesterday: link to this video link link

radicalityon Hacker News • Recommends

On “MuseScore 4”

Obligatory funny video review of MuseScore 3 UI: link to this video Same author also has a funny video on the UI of another music notation program, Sibelius: link

Nullabillityon Hacker News • Mentions

On “Linux Sucks 2020”

Tantacrul did one on MuseScore0 (a music composing program), and ended up getting hired as their head of design1. 0: link to this video 1: Mentioned in link , but don't have the exact timestamp

dry_soupon Hacker News • Mentions

On “MuseScore 4: Moving from notation software to composition software”

Exciting news! This feels like a Blender 2.8-style project. What's funny about this is that a composer/music YouTuber/UX designer called Tantacrul meticulously roasted MuseScore's UI on YouTube, and the MuseScore team ended up hiring him, leading to this project. The video in question: link to this video

karldingon Hacker News • Mentions

On ““LibreOffice is at serious risk””

I agree. GUIs are hard! On the other hand, it seems like Open Source has a lack of designers that are willing to contribute. For example, in Tantacrul's critique of MuseScore 0, there's issues highlighted that seem obvious in retrospect, but in Open Source projects, unless there's someone who drives the user experience, it's easy to miss all these small things that add up to signal (whether rightly or wrongly is besides the point) a lack of polish. 0 link to this video

ohazion Hacker News • Mentions

On “Update on MuseScore 3.6 and 4.0”

For those out of the loop: Tantacrul is a composer who put together some hilariously scathing UI/UX video reviews for some popular composing software tools out there, including MuseScore 1 2 3. The team developing MuseScore then brought him on as head of design. 1 Sibelius: link 2 MuseScore: link to this video 3 Dorico: link

NickHoffon Hacker News • Mentions

On “Music Software and Bad Interface Design: Avid’s Sibelius (2018) [video]”

This guy also made a similarly acerbic video about MuseScore, a good open source scorewriter 1. They actually took his criticisms and started making changes. The two ended up working together and I think he is now the design lead for MuseScore. 1: link to this video

tasty_freezeon Hacker News • Mentions

On ““Compiling” Music”

Musescore is usable but isn't great. I haven't used lilypond, but I'm sure lilypond is miles better. The focus of musescore has changed over the past year or two, all triggered by a funny youtube sh*tpost criticizing its UI (it was one series of such videos taking shots at all the big notation programs). link to this video The guy who created it is a trifecta: a composer, a typographer, and UI expert. The team at musescore took the criticism in good humor, and hired the creator of the video (Tantacrul, aka Martin Keary) to help them change it. The first phase was getting rid of some low-hanging fruit in the UI department. That work is ongoing. The main focus of the next phase (musescore 4.0) is the qua…

amiga386on Hacker News • Mentions

On “Printing Music with CSS Grid”

…s, but as far as I know, they didn't make long-form Youtube videos about the topic! He also likely got the job of leading the MuseScore redesign thanks to his previous videos that critiqued and reimagined the interfaces of music composition software... including older versions of Sibelius 2 and MuseScore 3) 0 link 1 link 2 link 3 link to this video…