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NeWS: A Networked and Extensible Window System, lecture by James Gosling

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  • Presented by James Gosling, creator of Java and NeWS

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James Gosling describes NeWS, a networked window system that uses PostScript as a programming language for communication between clients and the server.

NeWS: A Networked and Extensible Window System, lecture by James Gosling. The video was recorded in June 1990. From University Video Communications' catalog: "This lecture describes NeWS, a system in which client messages containing PostScript programs are passed across the network to be executed by the server. This use of a programming language as a basis of communication protocol allows for the extensive range of the windowing system. NeWS also has a high-level imaging model that enables device-independent advanced rendering. Comparisons to similar systems are discussed." Lot number: X6636.2013 Catalog number: 102624680

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What people say. Engineers point to this lecture as a historical look at Sun's PostScript-based alternative to the X Window System.

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