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The Web That Never Was - Dylan Beattie

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History and cultureWeb developmentHistory of computingHow browsers workThe tech industry

Dylan Beattie explores an alternate history of the web, imagining how different decisions about operating systems, browsers, and standards could have shaped computing.

The story of the web is a story about freedom. It's a story about information, about breaking down barriers, about creating new ways for people to communicate, to collaborate, and to share their ideas. It’s also a story that has as much do with marketing, money and meetings as it does with research and innovation. It’s a story of mediocre ideas that succeeded where brilliant ideas failed, a story of compromises, rushed deadlines and last-minute decisions. And it could so easily have been very, very different. What if IBM had hired Digital Research instead of Microsoft to develop the operating system for their first PC, way back in 1980? What if Marc Andreessen and Jim Clark had gone to work for Nintendo in 1993 and never founded Netscape? What if one of the team at CERN had said “Tim, won’t it sound a bit silly if everyone spends the next fifty years saying double-you-double-you-double-you all the time”? In this talk, Dylan Beattie will explore alternative history of the world wide web - a web with no Microsoft, no Windows; no Firefox, no Google and no JavaScript. A software industry from another timeline, a world of platforms, protocols and programming languages that are unmistakably alien - and yet strangely familiar. So strap in, hold tight, and join us as take you on a journey through... the web that never was. NDC Conferences ndcsydney.com ndcconferences.com

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What people say. Highly recommended as an entertaining and thought-provoking look at the history of the web and the accidental decisions that shaped it.

AlbertoGPon Hacker News • Recommends

On “Poor Man's Web”

> I feel like more people should watch Dylan Beattle's "The Web that Never Was" presentation. Didn’t know about it, here is the video of that talk in YouTube: link to this video There is a poem-style intro titled “Flatscreens / a song about code” until the talk proper starts at 5’11”: link to this video Edit: I’m watching it and it is done in an entertaining style but is a bit loose on some details I know about, such as implying that the IBM PC development was started in the early 1970’s when it was in fact started in 1980. Still worth watching so far. Edit 2: finished, it is definitely worth watching. It goes into “The Twilight Zone” of a very interesting alternative history. And does a good job reporting on the…

x-complexityon Hacker News • Recommends

On “Blitz: A lightweight, modular, extensible web renderer”

Then you'll especially love Dylan Beattie's talk on this exact subject, regarding an alt-history take on the web. link to this video

x-complexityon Hacker News • Recommends

On “Forking the Web”

Whenever someone talks about forking/rebuilding the web, I'll always link to my favorite Dylan Beattie talk about such a hypothetical alternative: link to this video

taejavuon Hacker News • Recommends

On “Was Javascript really made in 10 days?”

You might enjoy this talk by Dylan Beattie, it explores that kind of alternate history. “The Web That Never Was”: link to this video

artemissianon Hacker News • Mentions

On “The State of HTTP in 2022”

They should ofc have used SELECT CREATE UPDATE DELETE SUBMIT and nothing more :D #TheWebThatNeverWas link to this video

u/knoamin r/ProgrammingLanguages • Mentions

On “How would you remake the web?”

Here are some other people's ideas about this. Dylan Beattie's The Web That Never Was presentation is an exercise in counterfactual history that posits a compelling lisp-based web. Tim Berners-Lee is working on the Solid project which focuses on data sovereignty. Douglas Crockford has the Seif Project which as I recall reboots the web to be more app centric rather than document based, using QML instead of HTML. His ideas on how he would redo JavaScript are pretty interesting too. He proposes using decimal floating point as the one numeric type and even designs his own format. Personally, I like the general idea of a managed code bytecode VM like CLR or the JVM. So I'd like to see a hig…