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DEF CON 23 - Chris Rock - I Will Kill You

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  • A classic. People kept recommending it from 2016 to 2023.
  • Presented by Chris Rock, security researcher

Intermediate. Assumes working knowledge.

268K views11 years ago7 recommendations

SecurityWeb and application securityExploits and vulnerabilitiesPrivacy and surveillance

Chris Rock demonstrates how security flaws in electronic death registration systems allow attackers to virtually declare living people dead.

Have you ever wanted to kill someone? Do you want to get rid of your partner, your boss or your arch nemesis? Perhaps you want to enjoy your life insurance payout whilst you’re still alive. Do you have rich elderly parents that just won’t die quick enough? Or do you want a “Do Over” new identity. Then, this presentation is for you! I’ll provide you with the insight and techniques on how to “kill” someone and obtain a real death certificate and shutdown their lives. It focuses on the lack of security controls that allow any of us to virtually kill off anyone or any number of people. Forget the Dexter way of killing someone, I’ll show you how to avoid the messy clean up and focusing in on the digital aspects. You could be dead right now and not even know it. The presentation will explain the death process and will highlight the vulnerabilities and its implications world-wide. You will learn: How to fill in a doctor’s medical cause of death certificate anonymously. How to become a funeral director and dispose of the body. How to obtain a Death Certificate. Once you’ve wrapped your mind around that concept, I will also show you how to “birth” Virtual identities that obtain real birth certificates. You will learn the birth registration process and the security vulnerabilities associated with this as well. The third and final step of the presentation is “The baby harvest”, a concept that I’ve developed, which involves creating and raising virtual identities. This technique is similar to a shelf company. Virtuals will be “born”, registered with the government complete with birth certificates and social security numbers. They can open up bank accounts, get a virtual job to launder money, pay taxes, obtain home loans and obtain life insurance policies. They can be married to anyone (virtual or not) and be directors of companies…. the list is endless and to complete the circle of life, they can be killed off when they are ready for “harvest” for their life insurance payouts or sold as permanent I.D.’s. With no victim, this is taking identity theft to the next level. Chris Rock has been active in the security industry for the last 20 years and is the founder and CEO of Kustodian, a specialized security company that specializes in Security Operations Centres, Penetration testing and independent research. Kustodian is an Australian, Middle East and Hong Kong registered company that has been operational for over 9 years. Chris has also spent 12 years in the banking sector and provides security services around the world for small, medium and large companies.

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7 people recommend this

What people say. Recommended as an eye-opening and hilarious talk exposing the fragile trust-based systems governing birth and death certificates.

jastantonon Hacker News • Recommends

On “Faking your death”

Reminds me of a DefCon speaker that talked about exploiting a bunch of websites to order death and birth certificates. Really eye opening, and potentially devastating if it's done to you. Edit: link to this video

griffinmahonon Hacker News • Recommends

On “How to Overthrow a Government [video]”

The speaker's previous presentation at a different year of the same conference, about using online records to fabricate your own death or the birth of a made-up baby, is also worth watching: link to this video .

Maarten88on Hacker News • Recommends

On “Facebook ordered to explain deleted profile”

It's not only Facebook who have this process unsufficiently secured. The process for administering real death is also not really tamperproof. There is a hilarious defcon presentation on virtually killing someone and getting a real death certificate: link to this video Improperly reporting someone dead, or misrepresenting someone's will is something "you don't do" so the system is designed to minimize friction/pain.

molesyon Hacker News • Recommends

On “$190M missing after crypto exchange Quadriga CEO dies”

Most jurisdictions (US and otherwise) have moved to Electronic Death Registration Systems. There was a fun Defcon talk about "killing" people with them a few years ago - link to this video

chatmastaon Hacker News • Recommends

On “It's Way Too Easy to Get a .gov Domain Name”

An alarming amount of societal functionality depends on what effectively amounts to the honor system. This is especially true when it comes to any sort of gatekept specialty profession, like coroners for example. There was a great talk at DefCon about faking death: link to this video

TheDongon Hacker News • Recommends

On “What to do if the bank says you're dead”

On the subject of people being declared dead, there's a good defcon talk about abusing how easy it is to declare someone dead. "Chris Rock - I Will Kill You" link to this video

unforgivenpastaon Hacker News • Recommends

On “Verizon fell for fake "search warrant," gave victim's phone data to stalker”

It is! This video is a bit old now but it's still so unbelievable how easy it was for the speaker to "kill" people (in Australia) link to this video

freeflighton Hacker News • Mentions

On “Three Years in Identity Theft Hell”

> The United States. I assure you that even though other countries have credit reporting, they do not use SSNs. They use ID cards with at least some features to make forging said ID cards more difficult, unlike the US SSN which is pretty much just a number on a piece of paper. This is mainly an issue of authentification and as long as your credentials remain crappy/easy to guess/easy to forge (like the US SSN system), that long it will stay easy to game the system. Imho this def con talk about birthing and killing virtual babies might also be quite relevant to the issue, tho it's not entirely focused on the US: link to this video

CTDOCodebaseson Hacker News • Mentions

On “India's living dead”

This reminds me of a Defcon talk.0 In Australia before a certain date the states/feds didn't keep a record of your face if you got a licence/proof of age card. If you find yourself in this position all that is required is non photo id and a statutory declaration signed by friend to authenticate your identity. 0 link to this video

aeonikon Hacker News • Mentions

On “What happens to your online accounts when you die?”

Yeah, and Facebook is the least of your concerns. Defcon talk about the security of death certificates, and what happens to your life if you are targeted by this attack. link to this video