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Joe Rogan Experience #1258 - Jack Dorsey, Vijaya Gadde & Tim Pool

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Twitter executives Jack Dorsey and Vijaya Gadde debate content moderation, censorship, and platform rules with journalist Tim Pool.

Jack Dorsey is a computer programmer and Internet entrepreneur who is co-founder and CEO of Twitter, and founder and CEO of Square, a mobile payments company. Vijaya Gadde serves as the global lead for legal, policy, and trust and safety at Twitter. Tim Pool is an independent journalist. His work can currently be found at timcast.com

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6 people recommend this, 1 disputes it

What people say. Recommended for its deep, unedited debate on tech platform censorship, content moderation policies, and the challenges of political neutrality.

davesmith1983on Hacker News • Recommends

On “Show HN: A Firefox extension to leave comments on any URL”

…and not a "publisher". That means they shouldn't be censoring anyone on their political opinions and must be politically neutral (otherwise they are taking on the role of a publisher as they are acting as an editor), now IANAL but there is certainly an argument that can be made. Whether a judge would rule it so, who knows. This is worth watching: link to this video Tim Pool in this video manages to point out quite clearly how Twitter terms of service are political and they don't even realise it.…

dayvidon Hacker News • Recommends

On “Facebook to ban white nationalist content”

I wish larger tech companies would follow Jack Dorsey's path and have more open communication about their policies. His debate with Tim Pool on the Joe Rogan podcast0 especially provided insight into why they're making these type of decisions. 0 link to this video

manfredoon Hacker News • Recommends

On “Gab will become a Mastodon fork”

…d that laid off coal miners should learn to code). And by comparison, verified leftist Twitter users outright advocated for the doxxing and violence of the Covington high school students with no apparent repercussion. This podcast with Jack Dorsey, Twitter's global lead for trust and safety, and Tim Pool gives some good insight into the situation: link to this video > Where are the people advocating for the destruction of intellectual property rights, for widespread dec…

blotter_paperon Hacker News • Recommends

On “Twitter to ban political advertising”

…really interested in seeing where Twitter goes, I think Dorsey plays realpolitik sometimes but I don't think he has the same goals as Zuckerberg. I could be wrong, and Dorsey could just be a next-level showman, but I'm hopeful that he might do something truly interesting with the platform. I've still never made a Twitter account. 0: link 1: link to this video 2: link…

generalpasson Hacker News • Recommends

On “Wikimedia enacts new standards to address harassment and promote inclusivity”

…tter management is stuck in prevents them from understanding how people outside their paradigm view their actions, and this results in effectively banning a enormous set of the population from popular discourse. It is hard to evaluate if this is exclusively an American issue because, really, there are so few other countries that speak English. 1 link to this video…

Kyeon Hacker News • Recommends

On “X Is Reportedly Selling Inactive Usernames for $50k”

That's weird because I watched as left-leaning accounts got banned one after the other over the years. Maybe you think it's biased a certain way because of who you follow and listen to. I never thought I would recommend an episode of Joe Rogan, but the one where he had Vijaya Gadde on provided a lot of insight into how Twitter thought about moderation. It was a lot more nuanced than I expected. link to this video

incomingpainon Hacker News • Disputes

I highly recommend anyone who wants to know about Vijaya: link to this video >Gadde did more for free speech on the internet than almost anyone else I can think of. Call an ambulance! Medical emergency! I'm dying right now of laughter.

brodouevencodeon Hacker News • Mentions

On “Titania McGrath: 'Queen of woke Twitter culture' sheds his online mask”

Jack Dorsey (CEO) and Vijaya Gadde (global lead for legal, policy, and trust and safety) from Twitter recently was interviewed on Joe Rogan's podcast along with Twitter critic and journalist Tim Pool. Link to the stream here: link to this video I have some criticisms of Twitter that tightly align with what Dr. Doyle experienced, what was discussed on Rogan's podcast, and my own experiences: * Twitter is not a free speech platform, regardless of what Mr. Dorsey and Ms. Gadde say. They have prior assumptions that guide their decision making especially when it comes to identifying what is called hate speech. * Twitter is largely guided and controlled by progressive ideals. The people that make decisions t…

wesammikhailon Hacker News • Mentions

On “Facebook to ban white nationalist content”

…harder for each day, which only benefits the existing platforms. So when the platforms are biased and competition is hindered by red-tape and regulations, we cannot expect alternatives to popup that can compete with said entities. All of this leads me to believe that things will only get worse as I don´t see a way out of this clusterfuck we´re in. link to this video Edit: why the downvotes? :S…

writepubon Hacker News • Mentions

On “China Bans the Word 'Leica' on Social Media”

I hope the average HN user sees that Silicon valley companies have whole heatedly adopted the exact same totalitarian formula to suppress and censor conservative speech 1 Tianamen:China :: Conservative-Speech:SV-Companies 1: link to this video

mikeceon Hacker News • Mentions

On “Twitter won't ban Neo-Nazis because the algorithm might ban GOP politicians too”

Tim Pool raised an interesting point on the Joe Rogan interview with Jack Dorsey: as Twitter becomes more powerful and important in shaping political discourse in the United States, banning someone from Twitter could be argued to be a restriction of political speech: link to this video Personally, I think the mute and block options are all adults on twitter need if they encounter speech they don't like or makes them uncomfortable.

CapricornNobleon Hacker News • Mentions

On “Twitter says it will restrict retweeting world leaders who break rules”

>>>They're banning violations of their ToS. As long as that is performed equitably Except it isn't, as Tim Pool demonstrated on the Joe Rogan Podcast when he ripped Jack Dorsey and Vijaya Gadde a new one, with examples. link to this video

gcc_programmeron Hacker News • Mentions

On “Twitter rewrites developer policy to better support research and ‘good’ bots”

I know I will be downvoted, but I don't care: why are people using Twitter? To me it's the most vile and disgusting platform: no signal, just noise. On top of that, the people that run it are effectively coming up with arbitrary progressive left-wing policies on restricting free speech: for proof, watch this: link to this video after seeing I realised Twitter/Facebook/Google/Apple are evil corporations taking away your freedom with you cheering to it. Why are you using Twitter's platform? For business? Do you want to make business from Twitter's users which are mind-numbed angry, twitching zombies? Are there no business opportunities elsewhere? Anyone who is doing any sort of business related to social…

seesawtronon Hacker News • Mentions

On “Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence””

…ported by public) enter a queue. These are then inspected by personnel hired by Twitter (number varies proportionally to the scale reports in the queue). The personnel then go through a series of steps to take an action such as making you verify again, delete those tweets, suspending the account, or in the last resort ban the user permanently. 0 link to this video…

mikeceon Hacker News • Mentions

On “Resignation Letter”

…toral politics given that all candidates are conducting direct-to-voters communication via the media and whether it would run afoul of Federal Election law to ban, limit, or even censure in any way the tweets of a candidate for office. I thought that was a pretty intense debate and one that has significant importance give it's election year. Link: link to this video…

technoplatoon Hacker News • Mentions

On “CEOs of Amazon, Apple, Facebook, and Google prepare their antitrust defense”

> Ultimately, the hearing won't reveal any surprising facts about these companies and will likely feature some theatrics, as is often the case with antitrust hearings. The article says it best at the very end. Wherever you lie on the spectrum of blaming these tech companies for doing obvious things to continue to drive the bottom line to their investors, the problem here is that this is just a show. And everyone involved knows it. There are no mechanisms in place for making competent adjustments at this scale, ESPECIALLY in the United States government. If you’ve ever tried to watch any of these, it’s clear the legislatures either aren’t competent enough in the field to challenge these prepa…