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DEF CON 18 - Moxie Marlinspike - Changing Threats To Privacy: From TIA to Google

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Moxie Marlinspike discusses how privacy threats have evolved from centralized government databases to corporate data collection.

Moxie Marlinspike - Changing Threats To Privacy: From TIA to Google A lot has changed since discussions around digital privacy began. The security community won the war for strong cryptography, anonymous darknets have been successfully deployed, and much of the communications infrastructure has been decentralized. These strategies were carefully conceived while planning for the most dystopian visions of the future imaginable, and yet somehow they've fallen short of delivering us from the most pernicious privacy threats today. Rather than a centralized state-backed database of all our movements, modern threats to privacy have become something much more subtle, and perhaps all the more sinister. This talk will explore these evolving trends and discuss some interesting solutions in the works. Moxie Marlinspike is a fellow at the Institute For Disruptive Studies with over thirteen years of experience in attacking networks. He recently published the null-prefix attacks on X.509, the session-denial attacks against OCSP, and is the author of both sslsniff and sslstrip -- the former of which was used by the MD5 Hash Collision team to deploy their rogue CA cert, and the latter of which continues to implement Moxie's deadly "stripping" technique for rendering communication insecure. His tools have been featured in many publications including Hacking Exposed, Forbes Magazine, The Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, and Security Focus as well as on international TV. For copies of the slides and additional materials please see the DEF CON 18 Archive here: defcon.org/html/links/dc-archives/dc-18-archive.html

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What people say. Highly recommended as a formative and insightful talk on the realities of modern digital privacy and the limits of decentralization.

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I am (or was?) a huge Moxie Marlinspike fan, and highly recommend this video0 of his from Defcon several years ago. It was formative in my understanding of privacy and security. That said, something here really doesn't add up. Being a huge fan, I took note several years ago of MobileCoin, a cryptocurrency, which listed him on the home page as one of the team.1 Or, see this Wired article about it2. The big selling point, as I remember it, of MobileCoin (per the name) was that it was actually feasible for small clients (i.e. phones) to meaningfully take part in the network. But he's since been scrubbed from the site, as far as I can tell. MobileCoin was added to Signal, much to the chagr…

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