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AWS re:Invent 2018: Amazon DynamoDB Deep Dive: Advanced Design Patterns for DynamoDB (DAT401)

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Advanced. Deep dive for people who know the field.

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Databases and dataCloud and DevOpsNoSQL and document databasesDatabase internalsSoftware architecture

Rick Houlihan explains advanced data modeling patterns for DynamoDB, including single-table design, index overloading, and relational modeling.

This session is for those who already have some familiarity with DynamoDB. The patterns and data models discussed in this session summarize a collection of implementations and best practices leveraged by Amazon.com to deliver highly scalable solutions for a wide variety of business problems. The session also covers strategies for global secondary index sharding and index overloading, scalable graph processing with materialized queries, relational modeling with composite keys, and executing transactional workflows on DynamoDB.

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12 people recommend this

What people say. Widely recommended as the definitive masterclass on DynamoDB single-table design and NoSQL data modeling.

gigatexalon Hacker News • Recommends

On “Designing database: split into different tables or group them together?”

If you go single table you can use filtered indexes if your database supports it to speed up queries instead of having to do a row by row search with a where clause. Personally this seems like a job for DynamoDB but that’s a whole beast unto itself. You must know the queries you will do to the database before hand as that guides how you craft it. There’s an amazing talk at reinvent that is given almost every year on creating a DynamoDB schema ( link to this video ) I would normalize as the theory says and then denormalize as performance requires it.

tmshon Hacker News • Recommends

On “Ask HN: Resources for Learning about Databases”

AWS re:invent 2018 talks: link to this video He has a sequence of 2-3 great talks on DynamoDB, the history of relational databases and the rise of access-pattern oriented db design.

kbanmanon Hacker News • Recommends

On “The good parts of AWS: a visual summary”

I've seen this done for new projects, and it works really well. If your data access patterns are truly relational (varied lookup paths) then it is probably not the right tool, but many apps can be modeled in a way that DDB handles well. Highly recommended viewing: link to this video this talk explains how relational data can be efficiently modeled for key-value stores.

artembugaraon Hacker News • Recommends

On “DynamoDB 10 years later”

We realized how great Dynamo was only after we migrated off AWS. Dynamo was a key factor to us when we were releasing the MVP of our News API 0. We used Dynamo, ElasticSearch, Lambda and could make it running in 60 days while being full-time employed. Also, the best tech talk I saw was given by Rick Houlihan on re:Invent 1 I highly recommend every engineer to watch it: it's a great overview of SQL vs NoSQL 0 link 1 link to this video

mabboon Hacker News • Recommends

On “The DynamoDB Paper”

Rick Houlihan did a talk a few years ago about designing the data later for an application using dynamodb. The most common reaction I get from people I show it to- most of them Amazon SDEs who operate services that use Dynamodb- is "Holy shit what is this wizardry?!" link to this video One of the biggest mistakes people make with dynamo is thinking that it's just a relational database with no relations. It's not. It's an incredible system, but it requires a lot of deep knowledge to get the full benefits, and it requires you, often, to design your data layer very well up-front. I actually don't recommend using it for a system that hasn't mostly stabilized in design. But when used right, it's an incredib…

ronjouchon Hacker News • Recommends

On “The DynamoDB Paper”

For explicitness & searchability, commenting with the title of this talk, which is indeed excellent , not limited to DynamoDB, and which was kind of a revelation after years of using DynamoDB suboptimally: Rick Houlihan - AWS re:Invent 2018: Amazon DynamoDB Deep Dive: Advanced Design Patterns for DynamoDB (DAT401) , link to this video It should be watched along with reading the associated doc: link

sass_muffinon Hacker News • Recommends

On “Some notes on DynamoDB 2022 paper”

This is the video I recommend to others when working with dynamodb. The video is by Rick Houlihan about dynamodb modeling. In my experience most developers that complain about dynamodb don't fully understand it. link to this video

dalailambdaon Hacker News • Recommends

On “Google Cloud Firestore NoSQL database is in GA”

While the move seems to be towards NewSQL databases (Spanner/CockroachDB), the answer to relations in NoSQL is to model the data differently. This can generally resolve a lot of the problems inherent in the need for relations. This might not be useful advice for everyone, but I can highly recommend this youtube video on DynamoDB data modelling: link to this video

holleron Hacker News • Recommends

On “Rules for Data Modeling with DynamoDB”

Check out this video from AWS's Principal Dynamodb expert that touches on comparisons against relation db's: link to this video

forgingaheadon Hacker News • Recommends

On “Building a scalable e-commerce data model”

If I may share some advice - don't bother. As another commenter pointed out, relationships are inherent in a lot of the data you'll store for your platform, and for those elements that you'd like to keep the full data hash, just use jsonb in Postgres. Once you're at several million in revenue, then you can think about splitting off some parts of your data into document storage solutions for certain efficiency reasons, but that is by no means necessary. This is a great video on the topic: link to this video

unfuncoon Hacker News • Recommends

On “DynamoDB 10 years later”

I struggled at first but I watched Advanced Design Patterns for DynamoDB0 a few times and it clicked. As other responses have suggested, generally you define your access patterns first and then structure the data later to fit those access patterns. 0: link to this video

belteron Hacker News • Recommends

On “Distributed Transactions at Scale in Amazon DynamoDB (2023)”

My name is Marco Inaros! > What kind of system/application/query pattern does DynamoDB optimize for Start here: "Real-world use cases for Amazon DynamoDB" - link > I'm legitimately ignorant and a lot of people seem to dislike it. Start here: "AWS re:Invent 2018: Amazon DynamoDB Deep Dive: Advanced Design Patterns for DynamoDB " - link to this video Then: "Build with DynamoDB | S1 E5 – A Data Modeling Use Case Deep Dive" - link "Model hierarchical automotive component data using Amazon DynamoDB" - link "AWS re:Invent 2024 - Advanced data modeling with Amazon DynamoDB" - link

abd12on Hacker News • Mentions

On “Rules for Data Modeling with DynamoDB”

Rick has had the most-watched re:Invent talk the last three years. Here are the links for each: - 2019: link - 2018: link to this video - 2017: link Additional DynamoDB links here: link

isbvhodnvemrwvnon Hacker News • Mentions

On “A minimalistic Python wrapper to AWS DynamoDB”

The issue is that the keys can be used to various extent to handle relational data (this re:Invent video shows this well: link to this video ). What people miss though is that in order to not shoot themselves in the foot, you have to have stable, known access patterns which meet the constraints of DynamoDB. Even the documentation of DynamoDB says so: link This means that it's a good use case for shopping cart of Amazon since there's limited innovation possible there and it fits the bill nicely, but for a new application with relational data where the requirements change all the time - it's a terrible, terrible choice for which you will pay dearly.

belteron Hacker News • Mentions

On “DynamoDB 10 years later”

You never heard of Rick Houlihan? He is the 90% of DynamoDB Evangelism... At the same time you are able to this internal lookups? Do you work with DynamoDB? AWS re:Invent 2018: Amazon DynamoDB Deep Dive: Advanced Design Patterns for DynamoDB (DAT401) link to this video AWS re:Invent 2019: REPEAT 1 Amazon DynamoDB deep dive: Advanced design patterns (DAT403-R1) link AWS re:Invent 2020: Amazon DynamoDB advanced design patterns – Part 1 link AWS re:Invent 2020: Amazon DynamoDB advanced design patterns – Part 2 link AWS re:Invent 2021 - DynamoDB deep dive: Advanced design patterns link Amazon DynamoDB | Office Hours with Rick Houlihan: Breaking down the design process for NoSQL applications [link…

Zanfaon Hacker News • Mentions

On “How Pinterest scaled”

I think they're referring to single-table data design as described in link to this video It's quite clever and scales well, but completely unnecessary for the vast majority of CRUD apps.