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If Russ Ackoff had given a TED Talk...

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  • Presented by Russell Ackoff, systems theorist
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Russell Ackoff explains systems thinking, contrasting continuous improvement with discontinuous, creative leaps that redefine a system.

This presentation is from a 1994 event hosted by Clare Crawford-Mason and Lloyd Dobyns to capture the Learning and Legacy of Dr. W. Edwards Deming. Russ knew Dr. Deming and speaks here about the difference between "continuous improvement" and "discontinuous improvement" as seen through the lens of systems thinking. Russ was going to give a TED talk in Monterey, CA in 2005 and had to cancel because he was recovering from eye surgery. If he had given one, this is probably what he would have said... because there's a powerful and unexpected lesson at the end. Enjoy!

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What people say. Recommended as a foundational talk on systems thinking and the difference between doing things right versus doing the right things.

Litoston Hacker News • Recommends

On “Deming's Red Bead Experiment (2002)”

Thanks for the suggestion, how does what he says stack up against those who came after, I ask this because this is one of my favourite management talks by Russell Ackoff 1 and he mentions Dr Deming so assume he was influenced by/worked/studied with him and given their relative ages wondered if his work might be valuable to start with? 1 link to this video

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On “Scientists’ warning on affluence”

I think the article is right. Vaclav Smil has pointed out that today the share of fossil fuels, at about 90% of global energy consumed1 is actually higher than in 2000, and falling at a snails pace. There is a worrying trend emerging, fuelled by the tech industry of performative environmentalism that seeks to promise absolution like the church did by buying Tesla's and biodegradable cups while the real-world impact is marginal while leaving the fundamental flaws of the system untouched. We won't consume ourselves out of the doghouse. Russ Ackoff in a great talk about systems thinking2 once pointed out a few salient things 1. Counter to intuition one does not improve a system by merely re…

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On “Efficiency Is the Enemy”

This quote “You’re efficient when you do something with minimum waste. And you’re effective when you’re doing the right something.” reminds me of a Systems Thinking talk Russell Ackoff gave a long time ago 1 where he talks about the difference between doing "the right thing wrong" and the "wrong thing right" and getting more efficient at doing the wrong thing obviously might not be optimal :). This is actually a concept that Peter Drucker came up with, but I've not managed to find a good link to that, I'd be interested if anyone has? The whole talk is quite interesting, but I've linked to the relevant segment: 1 link to this video

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On “Risky Giant Steps Can Solve Optimization Problems Faster”

"Continuous improvement isn't nearly as important as discontinuous improvement. Creativity is a discontinuity. A creative act breaks with the chain that has come before it. It's not continuous. One never becomes a leader by continuously improving -- that's imitation of the leader. You never become a leader by imitating them and improving slightly. You only become a leader by leapfrogging those who are ahead of you. And that comes about through creativity." -- Russ Ackoff link to this video

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On “Comprehension debt: A ticking time bomb of LLM-generated code”

> It's amazing how fast the code goes when you know exactly what you want. To quote Russ Ackoff1: > Improving a system requires knowing what you could do if you could do whatever you wanted to. Because if you don't know what you would do if you could do whatever you wanted to, how on earth are you going to know what you can do under constraints? 1 link to this video