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Building pi in a World of Slop — Mario Zechner

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  • Presented by Mario Zechner, creator of pi
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  • An opinion. It argues one side of a question engineers disagree on.

Intermediate. Assumes working knowledge.

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Mario Zechner explains why he built a minimal coding agent harness and discusses how AI agents are impacting open-source software.

All I wanted was a shitty coding agent that is truly mine. And I’d have loved to just tell you why and how I built pi. But then Peter decided to make it the agentic core of OpenClaw. And now pi is collateral. So yes, this is a talk about pi. But it is also a talk about how agents are destroying OSS, how I deal with that, and a plea to slow the fuck down. x.com/badlogicgames github.com/badlogic linkedin.com/in/mariozechner/ Timestamps – Intro and motivation for building pi – Act 1: Building pi and the frustration with existing agent harnesses – Why current context management in tools like Cloud Code and Open Code fails – The importance of minimal harnesses and the "Terminal" benchmark – Introducing pi: A self-modifying, extensible agent core – The "YOLO" security philosophy and extensibility through TypeScript – Examples of pi extensions (chat rooms, NES, Doom) – Act 2: OSS in the age of "clankers" and how to fight them – Act 3: A plea to slow down and stop the "slop" in software development – How agents create "enterprise-grade complexity" and why humans are still the bottleneck – Practical advice: How to effectively integrate agents into your workflow --- Watch along with the corrected transcript, summary, timestamps and resources on this talk's official AIE page: ai.engineer/talks/RjfbvDXpFls-pi-coding-agent Join our upcoming AI Engineer conferences (see ai.engineer landing page): - AIEi Shanghai, November 5–6 — the first for meeting top Chinese labs and engineers - AIE CODE in SF, November 10–12 — the top AI Coding conference returns - AIEi Sydney, December 7–8 — the first AIEi run alongside NeurIPS 2026 in Sydney ---

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What people say. Recommended for its critique of bloated AI agent harnesses and its insights on building minimal, self-modifying agent cores.

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