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Numberphile v. Math: the truth about 1+2+3+...=-1/12

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Burkard Polster explains the math behind divergent series and analytic continuation to correct the famous Numberphile video.

Confused 1+2+3+…=-1/12 comments originating from that infamous Numberphile video keep flooding the comment sections of my and other math YouTubers videos. And so I think it’s time to have another serious go at setting the record straight by having a really close look at the bizarre calculation at the center of the Numberphile video, to state clearly what is wrong with it, how to fix it, and how to reconnect it to the genuine math that the Numberphile professors had in mind originally. This is my second attempt at doing this topic justice. This video is partly in response to feedback that I got on my first video. What a lot of you were interested in were more details about the analytic continuation business and the strange Numberphile/Ramanujan calculations. Responding to these requests, in this video I am taking a very different approach from the first video and really go all out and don't hold back in any respect. The result is a video that is a crazy 41.44 (almost 42 :) minutes long. Lots of amazing maths to look forward to: non-standard summation methods for divergent series, the eta function a very well-behaved sister of the zeta function, the gist of analytic continuation in simple words, etc. Intro Riemann zeta function: The connection between 1+2+3+... and -1/12. Ramanujan Teaser The original Numberphile video is here youtu.be/w-I6XTVZXww . Also check out the links to further related Numberphile videos and write-ups in the description of that video. Here is a link to Ramanujan’s notebook that contains his Numberphile-like 1+2+3+… = -1/12 calculation. imsc.res.in/~rao/ramanujan/NoteBooks/NoteBook1/chapterVIII/p… This notebook entry was also one of the starting points of my last video on this topic: youtu.be/jcKRGpMiVTw Other good videos that deal with this strange “identity” include the following: youtu.be/0Oazb7IWzbA (a Numberphile video featuring the mathematician Edward Frenkel who is also talking about the connection between the Riemann Zeta function and Ramanujan's crazy identity.) youtu.be/sD0NjbwqlYw (a nice 3Blue1Brown video about visualizing the analytic continuation of the Riemann Zeta function). If you know some calculus and want to read up on all this, beyond what is readily available via the relevant Wiki pages and other internet resources, I recommend you read the last chapter of the book by Konrad Knopp, Theory and applications of infinite series, Dover books, 1990 (actually if you know German, read the extended version of this chapter in the 1924 (2nd) edition of the book "Theorie und Anwendung der unendlichen Reihen". The Dover book is a translation of the 4th German edition. The 5th German edition from 1964 can be found here: gdz.sub.uni-goettingen.de/id/PPN378970429). People usually recommend Hardy's book, Divergent series, but I'd say only look at this after you've looked at Knopp's book which I find a lot more accessi

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4 people recommend this, 2 dispute it

What people say. Recommended as a thorough and mathematically sound explanation of divergent series, correcting the misleading Numberphile video.

stan_rogerson Hacker News • Recommends

On “Ramanujan Surprises Again (2015)”

Burkard Polster's (Mathologer) videos on the subject are probably going to be more useful than Numberphile. Numberphile merely presents a trick; Mathologer points out both that it's patent nonsense 0 and that it's useful patent nonsense 1. 0 link to this video 1 link

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On “1.5 is the midpoint between 0 and infinity in Ruby”

…S = 0 = 1 + 2 + 3 + ... - 1 - 2 - 3 - ... = 0 = 1 + 2 + 3 + ... - 1 - 2 - ... = 0 S2 = 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + ... = 0 S3 = S2-S2 = 0 = (1-1) + (1-1) + ... = 1 - 1 + 1 - 1 + ... = 0 But we "derived" in the original proof that S3 is equal to 1/2, which is a contradiction. (You could derive S3 is 1/2 from S but that's what the article does in reverse.) 1: link to this video…

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On “Conterintuitive facts in mathematics, CS, and physics”

I find a response video to it more enlightening. It's often found as the number one related video. link to this video

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On “Ask HN: YouTube Channels for the Intellectually Curious”

I know you're asking about Computerphile, but this video explains how one of the Numberphile videos is wrong: link to this video

t_mannon Hacker News • Disputes

On “Ask HN: YouTube Channels for the Intellectually Curious”

It's similar. Two issues with Numberphile videos I can remember: Their video on 1+2+3+... = -1/12 was so bad that another Math channel (Mathologer, which is highly recommendable btw) did a whole 40min video tearing it apart: link to this video In their video on fluid mechanics, they say that the Navier-Stokes equations describe all fluids on earth, while they only show the incompressible version (without clarifying). The examples shown on screen at that moment also include a Ketchup bottle, and they don't discuss non-Newtonian fluids either (Ketchup is non-Newtonian, that's why you can get a lot of it coming out at once if you shake a bottle too hard). It's a bit nitpicking though, because apart from t…

OldGuyInTheClubon Hacker News • Disputes

On “A Duodecade of Numberphile”

Yes, I kept waiting for them to "fess up" at the end but they didn't. Mathologer called them out on it. link to this video

djaychelaon Hacker News • Mentions

On “Ask HN: YouTube Channels for the Intellectually Curious”

…em on the number of votes. Here's all the channels with 2 or more: 6 Votes: link link 5 Votes: link link link link 4 Votes: link 3 Votes: link link link link link link link link link link link link link link 2 Votes: link link link link link link link link link link link link link link to this video link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link link…