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Agile is Dead • Pragmatic Dave Thomas • GOTO 2015

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  • Presented by Dave Thomas, co-author of the Agile Manifesto
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Dave Thomas, co-author of the Agile Manifesto, argues that the commercialized Agile industry has lost the original meaning of agility.

This presentation was recorded at GOTO Amsterdam 2015. #gotocon #gotoams gotoams.nl Pragmatic Dave Thomas - Pragmatic Programmer Turned Publisher @pragdave ABSTRACT Dave Thomas was one of the creators of the Agile Manifesto. A year ago, he told us that Agile is Dead. How could this be? Why had he deserted us? And what are we to do? It turns out that while the "Agile" industry is busy debasing [...] TIMECODES Intro UML Creation of The -Agile Manifesto Agile is not a noun On testing Stop Thinking & Get Certified Today It is time to reclaim Agility The PID Algorithm Agile is not what you do. Agility is how you do it. Questions Download slides and read the full abstract here: gotocon.com/amsterdam-2015/presentation/EVENING%20KEYNOTE:%2… RECOMMENDED BOOKS Dave Thomas & Andy Hunt • The Pragmatic Programmer • bookshop.org/a/9452/9780135957059 Uncle Bob • Clean Agile • amzn.to/3tpAqb5 Derby, Larsen & Schwaber • Agile Retrospectives • amzn.to/3hB4eNk Subramaniam & Hunt • Practices of an Agile Developer • amzn.to/2XjbWor twitter.com/GOTOcon linkedin.com/company/goto- instagram.com/goto_con facebook.com/GOTOConferences #Agile #AgileIsDead #AgileDevelopment #Agility #AgileSoftwareDevelopment #AgileManifesto #DaveThoms #PragDave #PragmaticDaveThomas CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos & other perks: youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket at gotopia.tech Sign up for updates and specials at gotopia.tech/newsletter SUBSCRIBE TO OUR CHANNEL - new videos posted almost daily. youtube.com/user/GotoConferences/?sub_confirmation=1

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12 people recommend this

What people say. Highly recommended by developers as a crucial critique of corporate Agile and a guide to reclaiming true agility.

monksyon Hacker News • Recommends

On “Ask HN: What's your favorite tech talk?”

Agile Is Dead: By Dave Thomas link to this video I love his talks for a few reasons: Often times... 1. He's anti-hype 2. He's contriversal 3. He's right.

jrs95on Hacker News • Recommends

On “Reality Driven Development: Fixing Project Management in Software”

I highly recommend this video of a Dave Thomas talk about what agile was supposed to be vs what it has become. Most of us are probably stuck working with some sort of Agile methodology regardless of whether or not we'd like to, but it can still be nudged in the direction that Dave talks about. link to this video

rimantason Hacker News • Recommends

On “In a nutshell, why do a lot of developers dislike Agile?”

Listen to one of the authors of the manifesto itself: link to this video (BTW, he is very opposed to the use of Agile as a noun ;).

lumannnnon Hacker News • Recommends

On “Ask HN: What's your favorite tech talk?”

by Dave Thomas (PragDave) "LoneStarRuby 2015 - My Dog Taught Me to Code by Dave Thomas" - link and "GOTO 2015 • Agile is Dead • Pragmatic Dave Thomas" - link to this video

jeremiepon Hacker News • Recommends

On “It’s not the methods that are Agile, it’s the people”

Usually, the more a team advertise itself as Agile, the less agility it actually has. I myself have never seen Agile work well, not even close. I saw plenty of make-believe and head-in-the-sand and as mentioned in earlier comments, insane amounts of cargo culting. I really like the way Dave Thomas put it: link He also made a talk about it: link to this video These days this is the only methodology I follow and it works wonders, anything more I feel is just noise. At the end of the day nothing replaces actual engineering and understanding what you're doing.

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On “Split user stories ruthlessly and get value earlier”

…what they wanted, we can change it without wasting massive amounts of time. If we find that our process is causing problems for the devs, we tweak it. When we find we're not doing enough analysis in some situations, we try to improve those situations. No buzz words really, just what is best for us and what is best for the customers. 0 link 1 link to this video 2 link…

FrankyHollywoodon Hacker News • Recommends

On “Scrum disempowers developers”

Dave has an interesting talk about it. link to this video My personal experience is any project where scrum actually works is a boring project, no interesting problem is predictable. Fortunately I see mostly frustrated scrum masters, not understanding why planning fails :)

jppopeon Hacker News • Recommends

On “Ask HN: What are the things keep in mind while giving/preparing for a tech talk?”

…Speakers have a tendency to want to show off the size of their intellect, and the level their competency- having a speech be entertaining is way way more important. 7) DO NOT READ FROM YOUR SLIDES. know your shit. slides are supplementary Extra Credit. Here's a collection of some fantastic technical speeches: * link * link * link * link * link to this video * link…

dvtrnon Hacker News • Recommends

On “JIRA is an antipattern”

Dave Thomas himself declared Agile dead a few years ago, but offers up what I think is a better definition link to this video

luggon Hacker News • Recommends

On “Scrum is fragile, not Agile”

Reminds me of this goto conference talk from one of the original Agile developers "pragmatic" Dave Thomas. Speaks a lot bout what agile truly is and how scrum is a very large mismatch. link to this video

rb808on Hacker News • Recommends

On “Dear Agile, I’m Tired of Pretending (2018)”

I think most of the people who wrote the agile manifesto said "Agile" been warped into something they don't agree with. Its supposed to empower teams, not enforced from on high to increase pressure on teams. Heres's a good one by Dave Thomas. A quote: "Agile is an adjective not a noun". link to this video

pi-squaredon Hacker News • Mentions

On “The Agile Fluency Model”

Agile is an adjective; The values of the manifesto for agile software development are lost, this is the original idea of The Manifesto: link to this video

afarrellon Hacker News • Mentions

On “How I learned to charge my customers”

…to know ahead of time what kind of contractor you are. Which is why any strategy that resembles "fire and forget" is a poor one for anything that hasn't been repeatedly tested before with mostly the same components. It's better to have a process where you repeatedly get visibility into a risk than to imagine that you can wall yourself off from it. link to this video…

u678uon Hacker News • Mentions

On “Ask HN: Do you think Agile/Scrum is beneficial for software delivery?”

"Agile is a Adjective not a Noun". It was supposed to empower devs but has been hijacked by management to enforce standards. from Pragmatic Dave Thomas: Agile is Dead link to this video

agentultraon Hacker News • Mentions

On “Developers can't fix bad management (2020)”

link provides some good content on his Youtube channel link helps to understand managing from an engineering perspective To understand some of the history and context: link to this video A bit dated but still useful book: link Best of all, for surviving at a difficult organization, invest in yourself and get a good therapist. I can't recommend this enough. Burnout is the worst but you can manage if you have solid, professional support to aid you.