Consciousness is Not a Computation (Roger Penrose) | AI Podcast Clips

Name: Consciousness is Not a Computation (Roger Penrose) | AI Podcast Clips
Uploaded: 2020-04-04T15:56:28Z
Duration: 23 min
Channel: Lex Fridman
Description: Roger Penrose discusses Gödel's theorem and the potential role of quantum effects in microtubules to argue that consciousness is not computable.

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Roger Penrose discusses Gödel's theorem and the potential role of quantum effects in microtubules to argue that consciousness is not computable.

Full episode with Roger Penrose (Mar 2020): youtube.com/watch?v=orMtwOz6Db0 Clips channel (Lex Clips): youtube.com/lexclips Main channel (Lex Fridman): youtube.com/lexfridman (more links below) Podcast full episodes playlist: youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrAXtmErZgOdP_8GztsuKi9nrraNbKKp4 Podcasts clips playlist: youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrAXtmErZgOeciFP3CBCIEElOJeitOr41 Podcast website: lexfridman.com/ai Podcast on Apple Podcasts (iTunes): apple.co/2lwqZIr Podcast on Spotify: open.spotify.com/show/2MAi0BvDc6GTFvKFPXnkCL Podcast RSS: lexfridman.com/category/ai/feed/ Roger Penrose is physicist, mathematician, and philosopher at University of Oxford. He has made fundamental contributions in many disciplines from the mathematical physics of general relativity and cosmology to the limitations of a computational view of consciousness. Subscribe to this YouTube channel or connect on: - Twitter: twitter.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: facebook.com/lexfridman - Instagram: instagram.com/lexfridman - Medium: medium.com/@lexfridman - Support on Patreon: patreon.com/lexfridman

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3 people recommend this, 1 disputes it

What people say. Recommended for its interesting perspective on the limits of computation and the debate around whether artificial intelligence can achieve true consciousness.

kebmanon Hacker News • 6 years agoRecommends

On “A man who can read letters but not numbers exposes roots of consciousness”

I think it was on this site that someone posted the very interesting perspectives on consciousness by Roger Penrose.2 From that I found this video by Dr. Stuart Hameroff, M.D.: Microtubules & quantum consciousness.1 Higly recommended. 1: link 2: link to this video

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marius_kon Hacker News • 5 years agoRecommends

On “Ask HN: Best Talks of 2020?”

Consciousness is Not a Computation (Roger Penrose) | AI Podcast Clips link to this video Full episode: link I don't take Roger's view about consciousness for granted but it is very interesting nevertheless.

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aamargulieson Hacker News • 4 years agoRecommends

On “Under anesthesia, where do our minds go?”

Roger Penrose talked about this with Lex Fridman. The anesthesiologist Stuart Hameroff is looking into how anesthesia affects microtubules and the implications for consciousness. Penrose is intrigued by the symmetry of microtubules and the possibility for this symmetry to enable quantum coherence to be accessible biologically. His larger point is that consciousness is not a computation. link to this video Relevant part starts around 3:30.

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coef2on Hacker News • 1 year agoDisputes

On “Gödel's theorem debunks the most important AI myth – Roger Penrose [video]”

It's sad to see the interviewer wasting the opportunity to interview Penrose. I found Lex Fridman does a much better job: link to this video

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ulfbert_incon Hacker News • 4 years agoMentions

On “Consciousness is not computation”

It reminds me of this talk1 and a conversation2, both hinting at the possibility of the emergence of consciousness from a matter due to quantum properties/effects edit and having nothing to do with computation. 1 link 2 link to this video

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Galaxeblafferon Hacker News • 4 years agoMentions

On “Artificial Intelligence: The Revolution Hasn’t Happened Yet (2018)”

Randomly watched this yesterday link to this video where Roger Penrose argues that we're missing something fundamental about consciousness and his best bet is a structure called the microtubules. This talk reminded me of my own research into "AI" back in the 00's and that it's almost impossible to talk about AI since everybody has a different idea as to whay AI is, yes i know there's a pretty good classification ANI, AGI, ASI but most people don't know about this and think of AI as a machine that thinks like conscious human. I'd argue that we've solved or at least partly solved the part of AI that has to do with neural nets. We're still some way off utilizing the full potential of neural nets since our…

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Mike_12345on Hacker News • 3 years agoMentions

On “Sparks of Artificial General Intelligence: Early Experiments with GPT-4”

The question is whether consciousness is computable. Can a Turing machine be conscious? Probably not. link link to this video

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qrioson Hacker News • 1 year agoMentions

On “Gödel's theorem debunks the most important AI myth – Roger Penrose [video]”

The question is answered in the full title: > "Gödel's theorem debunks the most important AI myth. AI will not be conscious" Same statement from Penrose here with Lex Friedman: "Consciousness is Not a Computation" 1. 1 link to this video

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