henningon Hacker News • Recommends
On “The greatest Demos/screencasts you've seen”
I thought Steve Jobs's NeXT demo from 1992-1993 was pretty impressive. link to this video It certainly would have seemed space-age in 1992.
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NeXTSTEP Release 3 Demo
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- Recommended by 3 people: 3 on Hacker News.
- A classic. People kept recommending it from 2007 to 2012.
- Presented by Steve Jobs, co-founder of NeXT
- Made by the vendor. The company whose product it covers made or sponsored it.
Beginner. No background in the topic needed.
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Steve Jobs demonstrates the NeXTSTEP Release 3 operating system, showcasing its object-oriented development environment and Interface Builder.
Steve Jobs demoing the NEXT operating system. Many of the features shown here are now in Macintosh OSX.Why it's here
3 people recommend this, 1 disputes itWhat people say. Highly recommended as a legendary demo showing advanced rapid application development concepts that were decades ahead of their time.
_frogon Hacker News • Recommends
On “Steve Jobs on Apple's brand strategy in 1997”
Not as relevant but I saw this video a while back: link to this video It's interesting to see a young Steve Jobs perfecting his presentation style.
ben1040on Hacker News • Recommends
On “The legacy of NeXT lives on in OS X”
Relevant - this 20 year old video with Steve Jobs giving a demo of NeXTSTEP 3. I first saw this after having bought a Mac running OS X 10.2 and was surprised by how the user-facing stuff was still very similar to its roots (maybe not nearly as much now). link to this video
Createon Hacker News • Disputes
On “Sir Tim Berners-Lee Stars in Olympic Opening Ceremony ”
Having single-handedly invented WWW is a nonsense, put a failed physicist aside reinventing himself. Not to mention SGML, the stuff wired though using RPC. Claiming credit for other's hard work and even visions without attribution is even worse, especially in science ("Institute for Web Science"? wtf). There have been lots of prior art graphical networked markup hypertext systems, ie. Xerox, Walker's Symbolics Document Examiner etc. Having used the interface builder to dump the stuff coming from the network? link to this video I am bitter because of the manipulative sociopaths abusing their position and power.
ynnivon Hacker News • Mentions
On “Introducing Atlas: A Visual Development Tool for Creating Web Apps”
Well executed? Absolutely. Innovative? Well... not exactly. Seek to 23:10 - link to this video (Man, look at that hair!) I don't mean to downplay 280north's work - I'm very impressed with what they're doing. It just bothers me when people see a derivative work and think it to be original. (Ahem, Chris Hughes)
spitfireon Hacker News • Mentions
On “Ask HN: Is there software for building software?”
Apple/NeXT used to have enterprise object framework. There's a video of steve jobs building a fairly complex DB app without a single line of code, including joins. We still have nothing like it. link to this video See about 25 minutes in.
lron Hacker News • Mentions
On “Play on Heroku”
Steve introduces Enterprise Objects Framework (EOF) at about 25 minutes in: link to this video EOF was one of the key components of making NeXT such a powerful OS, and why it was so heavily used on Wall Street. When they created WebObjects, they, of course, put EOF behind it, and yes, it is by far the most impressive ORM I have ever used. Thankfully, a well known WO developer, Andrus Adamchik, has developed Cayanne using the same principals behind EOF: link
Jachon Hacker News • Mentions
On “I’m too lazy to be a HTML developer”
…strict your universe to the web world, due to a limited selection of choices on the front-end. (And backend too if you go the traditional route of learning LAMP with PHP on a shared host provider.) Related to the other comment on RAD systems, even NeXTSTEP in '89-'95 had the WYSIWYG concept applied to everything as one of its major selling points. link to this video Around 23:00 Jobs starts to demo making a GUI application that talks to a backend DB and shows pictures, and you don't need to know SQL or joins or anything. So I don't think the desktop world has been any better in regard to keeping abstractions at bay or offering universal modes of thought (hey fork()!). The first time I programmed someth…
kitsunesobaon Hacker News • Mentions
On “NeXTstep Manual, Systems Programming with Objective-C and Driver Kit (1995)”
Relevant video from 4 years earlier: link to this video As someone who has developed for Apple platforms for the better part of a decade now, it's pretty amazing just how little Cocoa/AppKit have changed over the years. Only in the past couple of OS releases are we starting to see some larger shifts. The crazy part is that this hasn't really hurt the APIs at all; sure, some bits are starting to look a little dusty and could use some attention, but even so Cocoa (both mobile and desktop variants) remain the best UI toolkit for consumer-facing application development. Qt, GTK, etc get the job done but aren't nearly as pleasant to use.