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Ramanujan: Making sense of 1+2+3+... = -1/12 and Co.

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Burkard Polster explains the mathematics behind Ramanujan's famous divergent series summation and the Riemann zeta function.

The Mathologer sets out to make sense of 1+2+3+ ... = -1/12 and some of those other notorious, crazy-looking infinite sum identities. The starting point for this video is the famous letter that led to the discovery of self-taught mathematical genius Srinivasa Ramanujan in 1913 (Ramanujan is the subject of the movie "The man who knew infinity" that just started showing in cinemas.) Find out about how these identities come up in Ramanujan's work, the role of "just do it" in math, the rules for adding infinite sums on Earth and other worlds, and what all this has to do with the mathematical super star the Riemann Zeta function. You can download the jpeg of Ramanujan's letter to Hardy that I put together for this video here: qedcat.com/misc/ramanujans_letter.jpg (quite large) You can access a scanned copy of Ramanujan's notebook here: http://www.imsc.res.in/~rao/ramanujan/NoteBooks/NoteBook1/ch… or check this out books.google.co.uk/books?id=Of5G0r6DQiEC&pg=PA53&dq=gratifie… If you want to watch some other videos that deal with these strange identities I recommend the following: youtu.be/0Oazb7IWzbA (a Numberphile video featuring the mathematician Edward Frenkel who is also talking about the connection between the Riemann Zeta function and Ramanujan's crazy identity.) youtu.be/8hgeIDY7We4 (James Grime's video (singingbanana & Numberphile) which aims at making sense of the formula at the heart of Ramanujan summation which I only flash briefly in the last part of the video.) youtu.be/XFDM1ip5HdU (a very nice 3Blue1Brown video that makes sense of the identity 1+2+4+8+ ... = –1 in a way that is totally different from the one I am talking about in this video.) This week’s video is in response to a large number of you and my students at university asking me for my take on the whole 1+2+3+... =-1/12 business. Initially, the plan was to come up with one of my usual 15 minute long videos. However, after several unsuccessful attempts at not exceeding the magic Mathologer time limit, I realised that any “short” video like this would just be a clone of one of those wrong/misleading accounts of this topic that YouTube is full of. So, rather than just give up completely on this project I decided to do what you should never do if you actually want people to watch your videos, namely simply go for it and not look at the clock. The result – a video that is an insane 35 minutes long in which I say all the things that I think need to be said and can be said only using elementary math to (just barely) do this amazing topic justice. Thank you very much to Danil Dmitriev the official Mathologer translator for Russian for his subtitles. Enjoy! P.S.: If you know calculus and want to read up on all this some more, beyond what is readily available via the relevant Wiki pages and other internet resources, I recommend you read the last chapter of the book

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3 people recommend this, 1 disputes it

What people say. Highly recommended as a mathematically rigorous yet accessible explanation of Ramanujan summation, contrasting with oversimplified pop-math videos.

gus_massaon Hacker News • Recommends

On “The Ramanujan Summation: 1 and 2 and 3 and ⋯ + ∞ = -1/12”

…n particular, to get a finite result for 1+2+3+4+... you have to use extend the definition of summation a lot, perhaps too much, and there are many ways to do the extension, and not all of them give the same result. If you have half an hour to spare, I highly recommend to watch " Ramanujan: Making sense of 1+2+3+... = -1/12 and Co. " by Mathologer link to this video…

stan_rogerson Hacker News • Recommends

On “Ramanujan Surprises Again (2015)”

Burkard Polster's (Mathologer) videos on the subject are probably going to be more useful than Numberphile. Numberphile merely presents a trick; Mathologer points out both that it's patent nonsense 0 and that it's useful patent nonsense 1. 0 link 1 link to this video

gus_massaon Hacker News • Recommends

On “Ramanujan's Easiest Formula”

It is weird, very weird. A very nice explanation of the proof is in a video by Mathologer " Ramanujan: Making sense of 1+2+3+... = -1/12 and Co. " link to this video spoiler alert You can extend finite summations to infinite summations. The first extensions are nice and you get intuitive results, and are the extensions studied in Calculus in the university. But these extensions are not enough for this sum. You must make more bold extensions, and the results are not as intuitive, and not useful outside some special applications.

gus_massaon Hacker News • Recommends

On “I stopped working on black hole information loss”

I agree that most videos in YouTube simplify the problem too much or are just wrong. My recommendations anyway: * Mathologer: " Ramanujan: Making sense of 1+2+3+... = -1/12 and Co. " link to this video * Vsauce: " The Banach–Tarski Paradox " link Each one is like half an hour long, but you may need to pause them and rewatch them a few times to understand the details.

thaumasioteson Hacker News • Recommends

On “Code is run more than read”

…alf-negative sequence {1, -2, 3, -4, ...}. The zeta function is just a piece of evidence that the derivation of the value is correct in a sense - at the point where the zeta function would be defined by the infinite sum 1 + 2 + 3 + ..., to the extent that it is possible to assign a value to the zeta function at that point, the value must be -1/12. link to this video is a youtube video (Mathologer) which goes over this material fairly carefully.…

gus_massaon Hacker News • Recommends

On “Ask HN: What are some interesting math and physics blogs you follow?”

Not sure if this is what you want, but I like: The post of Mathologer about 1+2+3+...=-1/12 , probably link to this video The post of Minute Physics about the Higgs Boson , probably link

heimatauon Hacker News • Disputes

On “How to Learn Advanced Mathematics Without Heading to University – Part 3”

I'm glad you had success but...let's not measure your outlier experience with the rest of the world. Especially in Adv Mathematics. I'd point you and other HNs to Srinivasa Ramanujan. He is self taught but...he was wrong 1. He had a brilliant mind but...due to being self taught, he made some critical mistakes. Being self taught can easily lead the learner to some critical mistakes. Eventually, they may be corrected (and at what 'cost' does this mistake cause an organization or business or those involved) but it's more efficient of someone's time to just learn from another. I'm not saying everyone needs a University Degree. I'm saying that everyone needs a teacher. Everyone. Why? Because in…

CarolineWon Hacker News • Mentions

On “Does 1+2+3+... Really Equal -1/12?”

I think there's something wrong with the link you've provided: > Our systems have detected unusual > traffic from your computer network. > Please try your request again later. Perhaps this is the video you intended: link to this video