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2021: Year of the Linux Gaming Desktop - Andrew Kelley

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Andrew Kelley discusses the challenges of shipping static Linux executables for graphics and gaming, focusing on dynamic linking and the graphics ABI.

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What people say. Recommended for its insights into Linux binary compatibility, dynamic linking issues, and the challenges of static graphics binaries.

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ndesaulnierson Hacker News • Recommends

On “A proposal to start “llvm-libc” (2020)”

Andrew Kelley makes an interesting point in: link to this video about the PT_INTERP being hard-coded. That seems like a long ago assumption baked that binaries should only have one program interpreter per system. I don't know enough about configuring a system and the historical decisions around PT_INTERP, but I suspect Andrew is on to something.
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On “Building the DirectX shader compiler better than Microsoft?”

…reate static binaries for linux that work for eternity, thanks to kernel being actually stable. But link against something in /usr/lib and it all goes to hell. If the GPU drivers and libs that provided basic window / audio did not depend on libc and were standalone, the situation would be much better. Here's good video about this problem space btw link to this video…
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u/EthanAlexEin r/C_Programming • Mentions

On “Calling dlopen from static binary”

Andrew Kelley (of the Zig programming language) did a presentation a while back where he managed to load Vulkan dynamically from a static executable. link to this video
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AndyKelleyon Hacker News • Mentions

On “Fedora 38 LLVM vs. Team Fortress 2”

related: this talk that I made 2 years ago about an experiment to ship static executables on linux that could do graphics: link to this video
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AndyKelleyon Hacker News • Mentions

On “Zed on Linux Is Here”

My interest is not in using this text editor as a consumer, but in guiding software development culture in general, particularly when it comes to installation of Linux applications. Some talks I have given on this topic: link to this video link So, I think "entitled" is the wrong insult. "arrogant" would be more accurate.
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AndyKelleyon Hacker News • Mentions

On “Why Linux is not ready for the desktop, the final edition”

> Linux is not an operating system It is though. Go ahead and find me any distribution of Linux on which this binary of the Zig compiler does not work: link You can't, because it's a static executable whose only runtime dependencies are a file system. And if kernel devs would bless us with a stable graphics ABI, then we could do this for games, too. Unfortunately, the way drivers work currently relies on dynamic linking in a way that drags in a dependency on differences in distributions, which is completely unnecessary and maddening. Related: link to this video P.S. Just bought my wife a steam deck for christmas and she loves it.
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u/skeetoin r/C_Programming • Mentions

On “Why doesn't C have an installable runtime for its standard library, like the JRE?”

Correct. A great, detailed talk about this very topic: 2021: Year of the Linux Gaming Desktop
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