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Rich Harris: Futuristic Web Development

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  • Presented by Rich Harris, creator of Svelte
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Intermediate. Assumes working knowledge.

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Web developmentVue, Svelte, Angular and othersWeb performance

Rich Harris introduces the concept of SvelteKit and discusses the future of modern web development workflows.

Edit from the future: check out our followup podcast interview on SvelteKit share.transistor.fm/s/859bbd95 --- This was recorded for Svelte Summit 2020: sveltesummit.com The front end development landscape has been transformed since we started building Svelte and Sapper. What would a reimagined, truly modern workflow look like? Open Collective: opencollective.com/svelte

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What people say. Pointed to as the landmark talk where the transition from Sapper to SvelteKit was first announced.

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dmitriidon Hacker News • Recommends

On “Angular 11”

In addition to links in sibling comments, there's the official Svelte blog with regular updates: link and this video from recent conference on the future of Svelte: link to this video

qbasic_foreveron Hacker News • Recommends

On “SvelteKit Is in Public Beta”

Check out the creator's first posts and videos of sveltekit when he introduced the alpha version: link to this video The way I understand it is it's an evolution of sapper to be more versatile, especially with respect to the backend. Out of the box it can work more easily with serverless providers that give you static file hosting + some kind of basic API gateway and serverless function platform. So you can write full stack client and server-side code all using the same framework (like you can with sapper). But the key difference from sapper is that you're not stuck using a node.js backend, with sveltekit you can swap in different backend implementations, like one targeting a serverless/lambda system.

alexandargyurovon Hacker News • Recommends

On “SvelteKit Is in Public Beta”

Rich Harris did a great talk0 at an early stage of SvelteKit's development called "Futuristic Web Development". I really do believe this is the next phase of how JS web frameworks will work in the future. 0 link to this video

tobron Hacker News • Mentions

On “The Rome Toolchain: A linter, compiler, bundler, and more”

As an aside, Sapper in particular is probably not the future, as there’s been an unofficial announcement1 that it will be replaced with file-based routing built in to the Svelte app template. 1: link to this video

pier25on Hacker News • Mentions

On “Next.js 10”

And... Sapper is dead btw. Rich said it recently in a video. The Svelte team is working on the next big thing combining Svelte with Snowpack. The project is called SvelteKit. link to this video

atom_arrangeron Hacker News • Mentions

On “Next.js 10”

Relatively recent news, Sapper is not getting a 1.0.0. Svelte is going in a different direction in the future. link to this video

alfonsodevon Hacker News • Mentions

On “Comparing Svelte and React”

I think many people adopted React because Facebook was behind it, and using it in production, the ecosystem is huge, there is a react- package for everything you can image, there is also react-native, I don't like it, but there it is, you can reuse the knowledge to build native mobile apps. Now Svelte, I haven't been following, but I think the creators are working in what's going to be next and even better framework1, to your point of things in Svelte not changing as much as in React, maybe it just a matter of time. Here is the video I had in my bookmarks for a while, I still couldn't make the time to watch, so I hope my comment is not too far from reality. 1 link to this video

Glenchon Hacker News • Mentions

On “SvelteKit”

I don't feel like this page really does SvelteKit justice. SvelteKit is kind of like Next.js but taken to the next level. I know people using less mainstream frameworks tend to be a bit overzealous in their advocacy, but I've been using SvelteKit a bunch and I love it more than any framework I've ever used: - All the component/JS/CSS/HTML/endpoint plumbing is taken care of and optimized for you with no configuration. Including code-splitting per route! You can get up and running in seconds. - Can use the same JS/TS on the front and backends. This was always my issue with Django and Rails. - Server-rendered for performance and SEO with client-side hydration of components. - Optional client-si…

u/Astronaut4449in r/Kotlin • Mentions

On “Kotlin Team AMA #2: Ask Us Anything”

…Reloading speed using ES6 modules instead of bundlers** Something that bothers me with Kotlin/JS is that hot reloading is quite slow. The next version of Svelte uses Snowpack for insanely fast reload speed. Snowpack uses ES6 modules and only swaps out affected modules instead of bundling and reloading your entire code. See it in action here: [video See some explanation on why it is so fast: [video Is the Kotlin/JS team thinking of abopting snowpack or something similar? **2. SSR and CSR source code side-by-side** In the same video the author of Svelte Rich Harris talks about server side rendering in Svelte. [video Of course this is also possible with the current multipla…
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