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Jaron Lanier – Who is Civilization for? (+ Q&A with Ulrich Kelber) Willy Brandt Lecture 2018

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Jaron Lanier discusses the societal and economic impacts of AI and tech platforms, proposing data dignity and micro-compensation for creators.

Jaron Lanier – Who is Civilization for? Jaron Lanier delivers the Willy Brandt Lecture 2018 on December 10 in Berlin, followed by a Q&A with Ulrich Kelber, German Federal Commissioner for Data Protection and Freedom of Information (Jan 2019). Timeline: Lecture Jaron Lanier Q&A with Ulrich Kelber The Federal Chancellor Willy Brandt Foundation invites outstanding personalities from politics, science, economics and culture to the annual Willy Brandt Lecture. In the spirit of Willy Brandt, they address topics that are of central importance for understanding our history and shaping our present and future. Playlist Willy Brandt Lecture: youtube.com/playlist?list=PLArlFKrCW-zyYvGPbotpO4vW7_pPtKwad Further events of the Federal Chancellor Willy Brandt Foundation: willy-brandt.de/en/current-events/ ----------------------- Jaron Lanier hält am 10. Dezember die Willy Brandt Lecture 2018 in Berlin. Im Anschluss folgt eine Diskussion mit Ulrich Kelber, designierter Bundesbeauftragter für den Datenschutz und die Informationsfreiheit. Timeline: Lecture Jaron Lanier Q&A mit Ulrich Kelber Die Bundeskanzler-Willy-Brandt-Stiftung lädt zur jährlichen Willy Brandt Lecture herausragende Persönlichkeiten aus Politik, Wissenschaft, Wirtschaft oder Kultur ein. In der Lecture greifen diese im Geiste Willy Brandts Themen auf, die für das Verständnis unserer Geschichte und die Gestaltung unserer Gegenwart und Zukunft von zentraler Bedeutung sind. Termine weiterer Veranstaltungen der Bundeskanzler-Willy-Brandt-Stiftung: willy-brandt.de/aktuelles/veranstaltungen/?fwp_veranstaltung… Playlist Willy Brandt Lecture: youtube.com/playlist?list=PLArlFKrCW-zyYvGPbotpO4vW7_pPtKwad Die Bundeskanzler-Willy-Brandt-Stiftung online: Webseite: willy-brandt.de/ Newsletter: willy-brandt.de/newsletter/ Instagram: instagram.com/bwbstiftung/ Facebook: facebook.com/BundeskanzlerWillyBrandtStiftung/ Mastodon: social.bund.de/@BWBStiftung Twitter: twitter.com/bwbstiftung Soundcloud: soundcloud.com/zeitgeschichteerleben/ Spotify: open.spotify.com/show/3BNitkqNhlWuktAt8pxshz Apple Podcasts: podcasts.apple.com/de/podcast/zeitgeschichte-erleben-der-pod… #Lecture #JaronLanier #Civilization

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