spyderon Hacker News • Recommends
On “New Requests for Startups”
There are some interesting ideas that could help with reading and writing programs: from Bret Victor: link and intentional programming from Charles Simonyi: link link to this video
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Intentional Programming demo (Part 1) - Editor
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A demonstration of Microsoft's experimental Intentional Programming system, showcasing its projectional AST editor and alternative way of working with code.
An old research system from Microsoft, video off the net chopped up to fit into two 10 minute clips for youtube, interesting way to work with code. Un vieja sistema de la investigación de los putos de Microsoft, vídeo de la red tajó hasta ajuste en dos partes de diez minutitos para el youtube, una manera interesante de trabajar con código.Why it's here
1 person recommends thisWhat people say. Shared as a historical example of projectional editing and AST-based programming environments.
amichailon Hacker News • Mentions
On “I'm looking for a partner or two (here are some of my ideas, feel free to add your own here)”
I am interested in seeing what happens when you apply intentional programming to web link to this video idea is to open up your search engine so that anyone can submit code for domain specific query entry, search, ranking, and presentation of results. Moreover, such code submissions would compete with each other, with more effective ones rising in popularity in their respective domains. Unlike APIs that are currently available, the submissions made by users here would make up the core feature set of the service.
amichailon Hacker News • Mentions
On “SF Chronicle article about new search startups”
I wonder if it would make sense to make a search engine platform where (more technical) users can submit code for domain specific query entry, search, ranking, and presentation of results. Moreover, such code submissions would compete with each other, with more effective ones rising in popularity in their respective domains. Unlike APIs that are currently available, the submissions made by users here would make up the core feature set of the service. This is sort of like intentional programming, but applied to link to this video
corysamaon Hacker News • Mentions
On “Ask HN: Is the architecture of programming tools historical accident?”
It's a shame the Intentional Software crew have been nearly silent for the a decade or so they've been in business. They've been doing projections-of-ASTs based programming for a very long time. They bragged a lot about it early on and I haven't heard much of anything since. Here are a couple of demo vids from well over 10 years ago: link to this video link Here's an interview from 2009 where one of the crew members talks about an annotated S-expression as the core code representation (IIRC, it's been a long time since I listened to it) link
DalekBaldwinon Hacker News • Mentions
On “Charles Simonyi on Intentional Software Joining Microsoft”
For the curious: it's difficult to find that particular demo on the web now, but the system didn't look too much different from its earlier incarnation at Microsoft in the '90s: link to this video
calebhon Hacker News • Mentions
On “Show HN: Bato – A Filipino Programming Language”
This idea has been around for ages. Check out this old video on intentional programming by Microsoft: link to this video
corysamaon Hacker News • Mentions
On “Predictive Debugging: A Game-Changing Look into the Future”
Charles Simonyi's Intentional Software was doing that back in the days of Windows NT link to this video But, they stayed insular and enterprise right up until Microsoft bought them back. We mortals barely got to see or hear anything about it. I heard one podcast interview of a developer there who said they basically represent the code as an s-expression tree with a bunch of metadata on each node.
sweetsocks21on Hacker News • Mentions
On “Clean your codebase with basic information theory”
Intentional Software was working on a system like this many years ago: link to this video Part 2: link You can project your programs into different views and add lots of metadata about the program and use that data in various contexts. Also extends to source control and other use cases. It looked really neat. I'm not sure what happened to it.