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A.I., Mars and Immortality: Are We Dreaming Big Enough? | Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

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Peter Thiel discusses technological stagnation, artificial intelligence, longevity science, and the risks of civilizational decline with Ross Douthat.

The billionaire Peter Thiel is unimpressed with our pace of innovation. In this episode, he critiques artificial intelligence, longevity science and space travel — and warns that our lack of progress could lead to catastrophic outcomes, including the emergence of the Antichrist. What does stagnation mean in 2025? Peter Thiel's case for more progress and innovation Does taking more scientific risk include life extension? Peter Thiel's political history Did Trump live up to Thiel's expectations? Does Elon Musk even want to go to Mars? How Thiel defines A.I. Is A.I. too modest an ambition? How will the human race evolve? Should it? Thiel's critique of Silicon Valley Who is the real Antichrist? Read the full transcript here: nytimes.com/2025/06/26/opinion/peter-thiel-antichrist-ross-d… This episode of “Interesting Times” was produced by Sophia Alvarez Boyd, Andrea Betanzos, Elisa Gutierrez and Katherine Sullivan. It was edited by Jordana Hochman. Mixing and engineering by Isaac Jones, Sophia Lanham and Tim Brow. Cinematography by Marina King, Brian Dawson, Daniel Hollis Diamond and Tam Lam. Video editing by Arpita Aneja and Steph Khoury. Original music by Isaac Jones, Sonia Herrero, Pat McCusker and Aman Sahota. Fact-checking by Kate Sinclair and Mary Marge Locker. Audience strategy by Shannon Busta. Video directed by Jonah M. Kessel. The director of Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. Watch more on @InterestingTimesNYT.

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On “Peter Thiel Fears the Antichrist Is Coming”

Better to hear from him directly than filtered, so worth watching the interview with the NYT's Ross Douthat, in which Thiel frames what he means by the Antichrist. link to this video Without spoiling too much, it is related to civilizational stagnation, and that our lack of progress risks catastrophic outcomes.
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On “4k NASA employees opt to leave agency through deferred resignation program”

It's all part of the plan, which is referred to as the butterfly revolution, by Curtis Yarvin. Leaders that have literally invested in this platform are buying into this nonsense. Peter Theil, JD Vance, Marc Andreesen, Garry Tan, Srinivasan, and many others, wanting to overthrow democracy and dissolve nation states. This effort is to establish Network States with those that worship them, sycophants and cults. They want to transform the US into an Autocracy. The polarization of the media and political parties is on purpose. They want America to fall. It's not a secret, not a conspiracy theory. It's definitely being rolled out by billionaires. It would be wise for others here to really do your…
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On “Corporation for Public Broadcasting ceasing operations”

Again, it's all part of the plan, which is referred to as the butterfly revolution, by Curtis Yarvin. Leaders that have literally invested in this platform are buying into this nonsense. These guys have polarized the two parties to a point all weaknesses are surfacing. It isn't about democrats vs republicans. It's just working class vs the billionaires. You know the ppl sitting behind Trump at his inauguration. Literally, they want to break apart the US and discredit the constitution. Unless we come together and carve a new narrative that works. These guys may succeed and you can kiss your life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness goodbye, as well bill of rights. Peter Theil, JD Vance, Marc An…
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On “Palantir is extending its reach even further into government”

My claim: "he believes Greta Thunberg is very possibly the actual antichrist" Thiel's words: > Thiel: ... The way the Antichrist would take over the world is you talk about Armageddon nonstop. You talk about existential risk nonstop, and this is what you need to regulate.... > in the 17th century, I can imagine a Dr. Strangelove, Edward Teller-type person taking over the world. > In our world, it’s far more likely to be Greta Thunberg. link to this video
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