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How Valve is Profiting from Steam's Back-Door Casinos

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Quintin Smith investigates the unregulated CS:GO skin gambling economy and Valve's role in profiting from it.

Despite some major controversies in the past, games like Counter-Strike: Global Offensive continue to support a thriving, unregulated gambling scene. And these days, Valve seems pretty disinterested about trying to police this space. We take a look at what that's meant for players who've gambled away life-altering amounts of money and try to make sense of Valve's decision not to step in and do something about it. Support us on Patreon: patreon.com/PeopleMakeGames Created by Quintin Smith: twitter.com/Quinns108 And Anni Sayers: twitter.com/anni_sayers - Intro - The creation of Steam's back-door casinos - Speaking to CS:GO's problem gamblers - Why this problem is bigger than CS:GO - How Valve profits from these sites - Taking these questions to Valve

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What people say. Recommended for its deep-dive reporting on the dark side of video game economies and unregulated gambling.

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