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TUN: Un-Ruining the MMO

MrBtongue

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An analysis of MMO game design arguing that modern theme-park designs lost the compelling sandbox elements of earlier online games.

Next up: I get even more self-indulgent and easily distracted. As a fun bit of trivia, Guild Wars 2 ruined my Youtube channel for like four months. One of the reasons I wasn't making videos is because I was playing it too much. It's the best of the theme parks in my opinion, but it's still a theme park and so didn't have much of a role to play in the point I was trying to make. Magic Johnson is the best basketball player ever, period full stop. Sources: Zero Punctuation: escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation Warhammer online footage: youtube.com/watch?v=zTiOGFM0ndQ Runescape footage: youtube.com/watch?v=YWeJiOegtTU SWG footage: youtube.com/watch?v=iv-8_r0-wKo Ultima Online footage: youtube.com/watch?v=gKi30ZsQp9M Everquest footage: youtube.com/watch?v=D5mNT2ka2i4 Neverwinter footage: youtube.com/watch?v=Z0E6Yw-M1YY LOTRO footage: youtube.com/watch?v=Iy88e7PZqss Old Republic footage: youtube.com/watch?v=A0nqdbiy3bE Tera footage: youtube.com/watch?v=5DJPd1xHCc8 Guild Wars 2 footage: youtube.com/watch?v=ygFJ1n7f1eo MJ stats from: basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html Jordan gets drafted: youtube.com/watch?v=Q-muVevTe_k Jordan highlights: youtube.com/watch?v=-bDKq4O8bhc Space Jam trailer: youtube.com/watch?v=xFwXDN3sI8g More Space Jam: youtube.com/watch?v=wY5AoBBH7cA Kevin Garnett highlights: youtube.com/watch?v=jjZqgq0vhjQ Dirk Nowitski highlights: youtube.com/watch?v=BpPhpotcxk8 Kareem highlights: youtube.com/watch?v=bwTj5w9OO5U Larry Bird highlights: youtube.com/watch?v=rgPpTvX86n8 Magic Johnson highlights: youtube.com/watch?v=uZHXe3eTooY Jordan commercial: youtube.com/watch?v=45mMioJ5szc Another: youtube.com/watch?v=dBxcunGc_nA WoW footage: youtube.com/watch?v=18IZNP_pTxc More: youtube.com/watch?v=VBdjCJ0wIAA EVE footage: youtube.com/watch?v=QdZKVQcx_WQ More: youtube.com/watch?v=VeRIduUUkLY Rift footage: youtube.com/watch?v=NPvbwkSzIWs Goonswarm propaganda: i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/256/819/b75.jpg More: i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/256/848/a0c.jpg More: i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/256/869/7a1.jpg More: youtube.com/watch?v=jzxY4kiz_lg More: youtube.com/watch?v=_ZcVxlbTM4o More: youtube.com/watch?v=7rX_ZyDY8UQ EVE sov map in timelapse: youtube.com/watch?v=S8MuyMlT9hY EVE sov map from back in the day: go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/UNL/influence.png EVE learning curve: cdn1.eveonline.com/community/devblog/2011/eve-learning-curve… From nowish: go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/influence.png Peter Molyneux interview: youtube.com/watch?v=tZcVoBxGee4 One Froggy Evening: htt

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What people say. Recommended as an insightful critique of MMO game design and the shift from sandbox to theme-park mechanics.

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